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Anyone have "crackles"
I was diagnosed with low lung function 3 years ago when I had bronchitis. Pulmanologist had me do a lung function test. Don't know the exact number, however, on the graph, the line for my age, ht, wt, etc.. I was about 1/2 below it. He then termed me with asthma type symptoms & put me on Azmacort inhaler. No symptoms before or now of asthma. I also have allergic rhinitis, nose drips all the time. Trying to make a long story short...about 5 weeks ago I noticed snap, crackle & pops when I breathed IN...sometimes starts out with a "click" somewhere in my throat/upper resp. area. It's every in breathe. Went to Dr., said it was a bad allergy season & probably sinus drainage as this only happens while lying down. Lungs sounded fine. Takes about 1/2 hour, then it starts. I try to get to sleep before this happens, however, I wake up almost every night for a bathroom visit or perhaps a nervous thing, to see if I'm crackling. It makes sense re: sinus drainage causing the airways to get blocked with this stuff. I've read up on crackles, also called rales, however, this refers to COPD. Would anyone else have had this problem or able to give any advise as I'm worried it could be something else. It stops as soon as I sit up or stand up and it never does it during the daytime hours. Only at night while lying in bed. Went to GP today, gave me antibiotics to see if perhaps I had some infection. If it continues, he wants to get a CT of sinuses. Any response is appreciated. Just had lung x-ray mid Aug.-o.k. TNX J
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- I have this when I have bronchitis or otherwise an asthma flare up. I lay down and can hear and feel the pops. I was diagosed with low lung function an an adult also and was put on Advair (steroid inhaler) and allegra. I also have sinus drainage and hayfever. I used to wake up with a morning cough and spit up phlegm but since on the Advair I don't have that. I think its allergies and maybe you have some mucus due to drainage.#1; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:42:00 GMT
- Thanks for your response Howitt. It always make a person feel better to hear of someone else with similiar symptoms. I started on antibiotic today, no sign of bronchitis, no cough, so perhaps it's allergy/sinus related. I'm still very concerned, I can get that way easily. :)#2; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:43:00 GMT
- I definitely know what you mean. I have been diagnosed with asthma as an adult by two different allergists. My small airway function is pretty low but my other numbers were about average. They said it was asthma, but I worried that it was some other lung disease since I really don't have typical asthma symptoms. I have always had sinus and hayfever, but after I started allergy shots at 45 years of age, I was retested for and they found the asthma. I have never smoked, but since my father had emphysema I was tested for the inherited type. It was negative and my lung xray normal. But anyway my asthma symptoms are being prone to bronchitis (especially in the winter), some airway tightness during pollen season, and some shortness of breath if I really exert myself. I have never had an asthma attack or even wheezed. Even when I am sick, the doctor cannot hear wheezing. I really hardly ever have symptoms. But I have been on my medication for over a year now and that is probably why. What are your asthma symptoms?#3; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:44:00 GMT
- You know I really don't have any ashtma symptoms that I know of. Only when the Pulmanologist told me I had low lung function and stated it was some asthma-like condition. He also stated that since I was just getting over bronchitis, asthma can initroduce itself at that time. (I'm in my mid 60's, never had anything like asthma as a child). I also had the emphysema test for hereditary & I was negative. My mother had COPD from smoking. I smoked, however, have not since '81.
Now, this problem I'm having....crackles while lying down on the in-breath. I have an air-flow meter, the highest I can get it is 350, sometimes 400. Lately, I'm lucky to get it to 300. Perhaps allergies are at the root of it. It's sure fun growing oldER!!! AND, of course, I have other health issues to boot. Anyway, thanks again for your reply, I enjoy reading your responses. If you know of anything else to make me feel somewhat better re: the crackles, please let me know. TNX J#4; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:45:00 GMT
- Right now in addition to my asthma medication, I am taking a supplement called NAC or N-Acetyl-Cysteine. It was recommended to me by a naturopath that I sought out for my asthma. It reduces mucus in the sinuses and lungs. A lot of people with chronic bronchitis and emphysema take it. It also helps with liver function which doesn't hurt! You might do a word search on it and see what you think.#5; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:46:00 GMT
- I had an xray mid Aug. showing nothing, blood work-up ok. Being a specialist, I'm quite sure the Pulmanologist has checked for IPF. Reading up on the symptoms, I have none related to this disease. Thanks for your in-put but I'm quite sure this is not my problem. Sorry to hear of your plight. Good Luck#6; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:47:00 GMT
- Thanks, I'm fine :) Some days my lungs have troubles but I've not had to deal with hurricanes, mudslides, or earth quakes... I'm great.
Praying for those who need the help!
Jeff#7; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:48:00 GMT
- I think I'm looking for the answer I WANT to hear and don't seem it hear it. I'm still having the crackling on the in-breath and a little wheez on the out-breath when I'm lying down. Again, this starts after I'm in bed with a click like in my throat, vocal cords, bronchial tube etc, not sure but I can hear it. Went to my regular MD, gave me anitibiotics to make sure I did not have an infection, I don't because it has not helped. He stated if that did not help, he would have a CT of sinus and then maybe another chest X-Ray. Well, my Pulmanologist did a chest x-ray in 8/05, started having this stuff in early Sept. & it goes on. I don't think a sinus CT is in order, nor do I believe a lung x-ray would do any good. How about a lung CT? Would this show anything more? I was hoping it was sinus drainage, I've been dx with allergic rhinitis. Have been using rhinocort nose spray & Azmacort inhalant, nothing stops this dreadful stuff. Could GERD possibly present these symptoms? I just can't figure & I'm a good observer to medical issues. Maybe too good? I'm really concerned & don't know what to do. Am I overly concerned? Anyone? TNX J#8; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:49:00 GMT
- Yes, based on what I have read and heard, GERD could cause these symptoms. Also, allergies can cause these symptoms. I know what it's like to be worried because I certainly have been before. I know you said before that you were put on Azmacort for Asthma. It might be that you need to change your asthma medications. I say this because it sounds a lot like asthma to me also. Do you have shortness of breath, particularly when you exercise? Keep in mind you can develop asthma at any age. I think you should get another lung function test just to be sure. That will clear up any confusion. Your other lung function test was 3 years ago? Another test will tell whether that has gotten better, stayed the same or worse. I developed asthma at age 45 but had hayfever and rhinitis before that. I had to try a couple of medications before I got better. My lung function is not 100% and may never be. But my meds control my asthma and help me to exercise without shortness of breath. I hope this helps.#9; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:50:00 GMT
- After reading you last post I want to say - I know what your hearing and feeling in your lungs. I experience it too. I'm not saying you have what I have, but that you not 'hearing things'. I know that GERD irritates the lungs, and causes breathing problems. From my experience, when my lungs are doing this they are trying to push gunk out. I have it most nights, but it's definatly worse when exposed to smoke, chemicals, dust, pollen, etc. Because of what I have my lungs are very sensitive to minute amounts of stuff in the air, so it takes less to trigger coughing and wheezes at night. What is in your environment, do you have other symptoms of GERD, what can you change to improve things, and does it change what your lungs do??
Yes a CT scan of the lungs shows more than a plain x-ray, and a bronchoscopy shows even more than that... Do you know what your latest pulinary function test results were? How long has it been since you did one? Are you tracking them? I get copies of them and had my Doctor show me how to read them, then I can referr back and see where things are going. Also, don't be afraid to push a bit, for Doctors it's a job, but it's your life... Besides they're all practicing :) Really though each body reacts to things differently and while there are generalities, some times it takes digging to find whar really works, which could have to do with you meds.
Hope this gives you something to go on in your search, I don't have an answer :(
Jeff#10; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:51:00 GMT
- I just thought of something else to add. I have had several lung function tests and always ask, "Are you sure this is asthma? Could it be something else?" They explained to me that the numbers on the test for asthma and emphysema are different. In other words, he sat down and showed me the numbers on my FEV1, etc. He said if I had emphysema this number would be up and this number would be down. What I'm trying to say is that if you were tested by a pulmonologist, I feel confident that that his diagnosis is correct. The see all kinds of lung diseases from asthma, emphysema, to fibrosis types and they know the difference.#11; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:52:00 GMT
- Thanks both of you for your suggestions. Appreciated. I had a lung function test done last summer 04. It's always low, I don't know the numbers only see the graph. I do have heart arrhythymias (SP) so I cannot take albuterol with the test so it's just the first part, nothing to expand my b.tubes. I refuse a bronchoscopy as my husband died of lung cancer and watching him go through those horrible ordeals has damaged my faith in a lot of procedures. Some are not necessary at all. This was never mentioned by Pulmanologist. I never had any breathing problems until this stupid thing started in Sept. which still could be related to allergies I suppose. At any rate, I called the Pulmo's office & of course no openings for awhile, so I will perhaps call when I get my thoughts together & set-up a time to go back & re-visit the whole thing. I'm pretty wound up today since I heard the wheezes & became quite frightened. Could have some GERD type stuff, no heart-burn, however, I do belch a lot & have IBS, can you believe all the things to have wrong?? It's very hard for an MD to treat me due to the many problems I do have. Also very sensative to drugs, so that has to be watched very closely. As I said, due to my heart problem, the only inhalant I can take is the Azmacort for now anyway. Again, thank you both for setting forth some good ideas and encourgement. It does help & I really do appreciate your efforts. You both have a good day & stay well. J#12; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:53:00 GMT
- Once last thing... go to the Asthma board and find the post "Asthma and GERD". You will find astonishing evidence that GERD can be silent and never felt.#13; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:55:00 GMT
- Thank you so much Howitt, I saw the Asthma and GERD thread...quite amazing. I would have never thought the acid spilling over into the esophogus could cause the lung problems it seeminly does to some people. I did make an appt. Tues. next to see a Pulmonologist P.A. in with my Dr. He will also be there for a quick consult after she reviews complaints. An x-ray was ordered first. Hopefully, I will find good news. Thanks for listening and offering your help and concern. J#14; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:55:00 GMT
- I just wanted to mention that a bronchoscopy is pretty good in that they can take tissues from inside the lungs, look directly at any segment of your lung, and can even unplug the lil airsacs in your lungs (called alveoli). They can also take a sputum (mucus) sample and run a lab on it. If a doctor has recommended a bronchoscopy I would suggest taking it.
Sometimes procedures are done out of necessity and refusing them is like tying a boxer's arm behind his back...it makes him less effective to do his job as a fighter.#15; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:56:00 GMT
- Good input. I had a Lung CT a week ago today. Nothing wrong at all, I was assured. Told me to seek answers from an ENT as this was probably an upper respiratory problem. I'm convienced it's related to sinuses. Perhaps someone will read this with sinus problems and shed some light on it. I still have the "click" after lying down after about 1/2 hour and then on the in-breath, a crackle sound. It does sound like it's between my right ear/throat/bronchial somewhere, just can't put my finger on it. Any replies would be appreciated. TNX J#16; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:58:00 GMT
- Congrats on the good news!! I know you are relieved. I posted a while back saying that I have sinus problems and I have the crackle at times also. Mine seems to be in the throat becaue when I clear it, it usually goes away. Mine is on the inhale, like yours. I feel certain this is upper respiratory in nature also. An ENT should be able to answer all your questions.
Cindy#17; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:58:00 GMT
- Thanks Howitt (C), I had not read your thread re:sinus problems. Isn't it amazing you can find other people with similiar problems? Try explaining this to an MD & they think they need to run a guzillion tests OR that you are nutso. Again, thanks for your continued support with my babbling rambling problem. Your responses have truly been most helpful to my mental health. Have a very nice weekend. Later J#18; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:00:00 GMT